Relegation agony is male equivalent to childbirth, say football fans

“Childbirth only lasts a few hours. The pain of relegation lasts all summer.”

“I remember once when we were relegated seeing this huge skinhead in tears. He was holding his head in his hands and sobbing.”

• Fulham fans now feeling the pain of relegation include Daniel Radcliffe, Hugh Grant, Piers Brosnan. Norwich fans facing it include Stephen Fry, Delia Smith, Hugh Jackman.

The agony of having your football club relegated is the nearest male equivalent to the pain of childbirth, according to a national poll of football fans.

Nearly two-thirds (63%) of football season ticket-holders polled felt that the pain of relegation was the nearest most men would come to experiencing the pain of giving birth.

The survey was conducted by the polling company TLF, on behalf of Warren United (www.warrenunited.net), a new animated sitcom on ITV4 about a diehard fan of a rubbish football team.

“Warren’s team in Warren United is constantly threatened with relegation”, says Simon Nye, its lead writer, whose previous credits include the sitcom Men Behaving Badly. “He lives in terror of it – and in bewilderment at those who don’t understand his fears.”

Even among less committed fans, who attended only one or more games per season, many more – half again as many – agreed that relegation was the male equivalent to childbirth as disagreed.

The results are based on national survey of 1201 football fans – both male and female in roughly equal number.

Spare a thought then for the fans of Fulham (including Daniel Radcliffe, Hugh Grant, and Piers Brosnan) and Cardiff, whose clubs are now officially relegated from the Premiership this season – and for those of Norwich (including Delia Smith, Stephen Fry, Hugh Jackman), who look set to follow them.

When Bristol Rovers were relegated last week after 94 years as a Football League club, the club’s fans – and their loved ones – felt the pain. One, named Kelly Ballard, Tweeted: “Devastated about Bristol Rovers result. Not sure how my husband is going to cope though??? ‘It’s only a game’ won’t cut it.”

Only a true fan understands the pain of relegation, feels Pete May, author of the book and blog, “Hammers in the Heart: A Lifetime of Supporting West Ham”, and survivor of multiple West Ham relegations.

“I remember once when we were relegated seeing this huge skinhead in tears. He was holding his head in his hands and sobbing.”

May, of course, has never given birth himself but he has attended the birth of both his daughters, now in their teens. “I’ve seen childbirth twice and relegation five times”, he says. “Childbirth does indeed look very painful” he admits, “but it only lasts a few hours. The pain of relegation lasts all summer.” And beyond.

First, you have the whole summer of selling your best players. “And then it really sinks in next season when you’re playing the likes of Rotheram and Peterborough… and struggling to beat them.”

Do women appreciate how bad it feels? “Yes, women football fans do”, says May. “But non-fans don’t understand the sheer hopelessness of it… the pondering of missed points and the two-goal leads wasted.”

His wife, says May, disagrees with him over any comparison between relegation and children. But then she doesn’t support West Ham. So, is relegation really that bad? “It’s worse than losing on penalties to Germany in the semis”, answers May.

Plus, there’s nothing to console you. “Childbirth at least results in something positive but with relegation you’re always worried that it’s going to get worse and then you’re going to slip down through the divisions…”

May was at Wigan three years ago when West Ham were relegated on the last day of the season. “We’d been two-nil up and then lost 3-2. Then some Milwall fans hired a plane with a banner saying ‘Avram Grant [West Ham’s manager] football legend’. And then we couldn’t find a pub afterwards. And then Avram Grant was sacked straight after the game.”

That was as bad as it gets. “It’s still painful thinking about it even all these years later…”

• Further information and photographs please contact:

• Mick Thorburn: mick@thorburnpr.co.uk : 0034950 453340
• info @think-inc.co.uk

NOTES FOR EDITORS

• Warren United is on ITV4 Tuesdays at 10pm until May 27th.
Co-written by Simon Nye, the writer of Men Behaving Badly, David Quantick and Dominic Holland, the show features the voices of BATFA award-winner Darren Boyd (as Warren), Morgana Robinson, Nitin Ganatra and Johnny Vegas (as Fat Baz, manager of Brainsford United).

Methodology:
Research carried out by The Leadership Factor Ltd using an online and nationwide panel of football fans who attend one or more professional games a season. 1201 such fans completed the survey, including 255 season ticket-holders and 497 who attend 10 or more games a season. Panellists are recruited through social media, Google ad-words and affiliate programmes. Panellists are invited to complete online surveys in return for a small cash incentive. Panellists can choose to refuse/abort surveys at any time.
YourSayPays is owned and managed by The Leadership Factor Ltd. The Leadership Factor Ltd are members of the MRS and adhere to the MRS Code of Conduct and Data Protection Act, and have ISO9001 for Quality and ISO27001 for Data Security. www.leadershipfactor.com

Those polled were asked whether they agreed or disagreed that the agony of relegation was the nearest that men would come to experiencing the pain of childbirth. Nearly two-thirds (63%) of season ticket-holders agreed, as did 60% of those who attended 10 or more games of season. Even among less committed fans, who attended only one or more games per season, half again as many agreed (48%) as disagreed (32%); the rest were “don’t knows”.

The Crying Game

Is this the most tearful season on record? Luis Suarez was in tears after Liverpool surrendered a three-goal lead in 11 crazy minutes at Crystal Pulis and had to hide his head under his shirt as Steven Gerrard shooed the cameras away.

suarez_crying_warrensballsJohn Terry, who has often told his side to ‘man-up’, was blubbing away after Chelsea lost in the Champions League semi-final at Atletico Madrid. It wasn’t even as if Terry will be missing the final, as I expect he’ll be buying both sets of Madrid kit at this very moment so he can celebrate with the victors. And after Chelsea drew at home to Norwich, Ashley Cole became tearful during the lap of appreciation because it might be his last home game at the Bridge.

Robert Huth, an old style defender if ever there was one, had it right when he tweeted “Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban.” When Gazza shed his famous tears at Italia 1990 he was viewed as endearingly eccentric, yet daft as a brush. Now crying is the norm. David Beckham hastened in in all things metrosexual and cried a River Seine’s worth of tears during his last match at Paris St Germain in 2013 and this season it’s been one long sob story in the Premier League.

It's enough to make you cry over your breakfast
Following Brainsford is enough to make you cry over your breakfast

If I wanted emotional intelligence from footballers I’d sit in at Steve Peters’ psychiatry sessions at Liverpool. The only time I’ve been tempted to cry at football was tears of joy when Brainsford United won the Co-operative Tarpaulins Trophy, yet I restrained my emotions and simply celebrated with a bear hug on Burger Al and seven pints of overpriced lager. Real fans are used to containing their emotions, even at times of relegation, and deflecting it all with a chant of “You’re nothing special! We lose every week!”

The crying game has to stop. Alan Shearer didn’t blub, he creosoted his fence at times of high emotion. The only time a Premier League player should shed tears is when he’s kicked in the gonads by Robert Huth.

Rochdale fans top suffering league; Man Utd last

Rochdale fans top suffering league; Man Utd last:

“Long-Suffering Fan Index” names football’s most & least long-suffering

Rochdale fans have followed their club through… thin and thinner, shows study of 220,000 results since 1888 birth of Football League

… But Man Utd fans don’t know what “suffering” means

See how your club ranks by consulting the full Long-Suffering Fan Index table for all 92 League clubs, published in the Appendix at the end below 

 

“Of course, I didn’t take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present. It was her birthday. Would I have got married in the football season? … Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.”

Bill Shankly (1913-1981), football legend

While fans of Chelsea and Manchester City watch their teams vie for glory again this year, the fans of lowly Rochdale are today named by statisticians the most long-suffering in English football history.

 

Manchester United fans, meanwhile, may not be enjoying this season as much as most but they are historically the least long-suffering in the English game, reveals the same study – commissioned by the makers of Warren United (www.warrenunited.net), a new animated sitcom, starting April 22nd on ITV4, about a long-suffering fan of a chronically struggling football club.

 

The show’s producers commissioned the statisticians who run the database at the English National Football Archive (ENFA) to compile a “Long-Suffering Fan Index”. ENFA’s top “stattos” crunched data from 220,000 match results since the first Football League season in 1888-9 to rank the current 92 Football League clubs by their lack of success, weighted by extra factors including the size of their average home crowds.

 

ENSA’s “Suffering Index” therefore also marks 125 seasons since the Football League’s birth – and 150 since the launch of The FA and the birth of modern football.

 

“Football is meant to be the ‘glory game’”, says Simon Nye, lead writer of Warren United, whose many past credits include Men Behaving Badly. “But for most fans it’s more about grief, pain and chronic disappointment.”  Supporting Brainsford, the fictional team in Warren United, brings its hero Warren more grief than glory. “But that’s what makes him a true fan.”

 

Rochdale is a large market town in Greater Manchester, on the doorstep of both Manchester United and City. The fans of Rochdale AFC – who include the comic Tommy Cannon and the singer Lisa Stansfield – may feel themselves long-suffering but they have, in fact, only been suffering since 1907, when the club was founded.

 

Nonetheless, they still top ENFA’s suffering table with a “Long-Suffering Fan Index” of 66.12, ahead of Hartlepool United in second with 64.72, and Exeter City in third, with 64.08. Manchester United, by comparison, prop up the table with just 21.31.

 

The Dale, as the club is nicknamed, has spent more seasons in the bottom flight of English football (78 including this season) than any other team. Indeed, during its 36-year unbroken residence in the football’s basement from 1974-2010 fans of other clubs began to refer to League Two as ‘the Rochdale division’.

 

It also has the lowest average league placing of any in the Football League – 76th. While the fictional Brainsford United has at least bagged one trophy in its time – the lesser-known Cooperative Tarpaulins Cup – Rochdale has not won a football competition since joining the Football League in 1921.

 

“Rochdale fans have followed their club through… thin and thinner”, says Nye.

 

Even Bill Shankly, the legendary manager of Liverpool, took a dig at Rochdale when he exclaimed, “Of course, I didn’t take my wife to see Rochdale as an anniversary present. It was her birthday. Would I have got married in the football season?

… Anyway, it was Rochdale reserves.”

 

The mockers were briefly silenced when the Dale gained promotion to League One four years ago, but sadly for the club’s fans the club’s stay at this heady level was short-lived, lasting just two seasons.

 

In compiling their index of fan suffering, ENFA’s statisticians factored in data on everything from domestic league and cup honours won (giving different weightings according to the importance of the competition) to average league position, promotion and relegation, and progress each season in the FA Cup.

 

They also weighted the results according to average home attendances, so that the index was not merely a measure of on-field success or lack of it.

 

European competitions, however, were not included – some comfort perhaps for Rochdale fans, who still await the day when their club takes the field against the elite of Europe.

 

Meanwhile, at the other end of the table, Manchester United’s bulging trophy cabinet means that its fans have the smallest suffering score, narrowly ahead of Liverpool . Then come a trio of London clubs: Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham.

 

Ironically, Rochdale fans are, at least for now, far happier than those of mighty Manchester United. While United toil this season under new manager David Moyes, Dale are looking good for promotion from League Two, if not topping their league.

 

This provides proof, if needed, that even the longest-suffering football fans can still dream of better days to come, when the wilderness years will finally be over.

Table: The 10 Clubs With The Longest-Suffering Fans

Rank
Club
Fan Suffering Index
1
Rochdale AFC
66.12
2
Hartlepool United
64.72
3
Exeter City
64.08
4
Newport County
65.53
5
Colchester United (top in League One)
63.39
6
Southend United
63.12
7
Torquay United
62.96
8
Mansfield Town
62.9
9
Leyton Orient (top in London)
62.83
10
AFC Wimbledon
62.45

 

Table: 10 LEAST Long-Suffering Fans, With The Lowest Suffering Index

Rank
Club
Fan Suffering Index
1
Manchester United
21.31
2
Liverpool
21.97
3
Arsenal
30.22
4
Chelsea
31.46
5
Tottenham Hotspur
32.44
6
Aston Villa
37.11
7
Leeds United
37.75
8
Everton
39.28
9
Manchester City
40.57
10
Newcastle United
41.27

Table: Longest-Suffering Fans In Each Division

Premiership: Stoke City (Suffering Index: 54.72; national rank: 43)

Championship: Bournemouth FC (Suffering Index: 60.26; national rank: 23)

League One: Colchester FC (Suffering Index: 63.39; national rank: 5)

League Two: Rochdale AFC (Suffering Index: 66.12; national rank: 1)

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT:

• Mick Thorburn: mick@thorburnpr.co.uk: Tel:  0034950 453340

warren@warrenunited.net

NOTES FOR EDITORS:

Methodology: How The Fan-Suffering Index Was Calculated

In formulating the index, ENSA’s statisticians gave different weightings for victory in the following domestic competitions: Premier League (or past equivalent) (10), Championship (6), League One (4), League Two (2), FA Cup (8), League Cup (6), Johnstone’s Paint Trophy (2), Test match wins (used to decide promotion and relegation in the 1890s) (2), play-off wins (4).

 

Other factors inputted include: average league position; percentage of games won in all domestic competitions; average home attendance; promotion and relegation; and season-by-season record in the FA Cup.

 

About Warren United:

The first episode of Warren United kicks off on April 22 at 10pm on ITV4.

Co-written by Simon Nye, the writer of Men Behaving Badly, David Quantick and Dominic Holland, the show features the voices of BATFA award-winner Darren Boyd (as Warren), Morgana Robinson, Nitin Ganatra and Johnny Vegas (as Fat Baz, manager of Brainsford United).

 

The English National Football Archive is at www.enfa.co.uk

Contact: statsmen@enfa.co.uk

 

Rochdale Contacts:

Contact Rochdale AFC and Its Supporters Club:

Tel: 0844 826 1907. Email: admin@rochdaleafc.co.uk

http://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/

 

Appendix: The Long-Suffering Fan Index In Full, For All 92 League Clubs

See how your club ranks, in each of three different eras:

  1. Since 1888 – birth of The Football League – to now
  2. Since 1946 – start of the post-war era – to now
  3. Since 1882 – the start of the Premiership – to now
TABLE 1:
TABLE 2:
TABLE 3:
1888-2013
1946-2013
1992-2013
Index
Index
Index
1
Rochdale
66.12
1
Rochdale
80.38
1
Exeter City
78.09
2
Hartlepool United
64.72
2
Hartlepool United
78.65
2
Dagenham & Redbridge
76.32
3
Exeter City
64.08
3
Bury
77.71
3
Swindon Town
75.42
4
Newport County
63.53
4
Newport County
77.65
4
Oldham Athletic
75.00
5
Colchester United
63.39
5
Torquay Uniited
77.49
5
Mansfield Town
74.08
6
Southend United
63.12
6
Exeter City
77.08
6
York City
72.81
7
Torquay Uniited
62.96
7
Mansfield Town
76.77
7
Leyton Orient
71.27
8
Mansfield Town
62.90
8
Scunthorpe United
75.72
8
Hartlepool United
70.51
9
Leyton Orient
62.83
9
Colchester United
75.41
9
Bristol Rovers
70.35
10
AFC Wimbledon
62.45
10
York City
75.37
10
Reading
70.16
11
Port Vale
62.30
11
Crewe Alexandra
75.26
11
Sheffield Wednesday
69.44
12
York City
62.08
12
Chesterfield
74.89
12
Southampton
69.17
13
Scunthorpe United
61.92
13
Bradford City
74.01
13
Wolverhampton Wanderers
68.90
14
Crewe Alexandra
61.80
14
Brentford
73.95
14
Newport County
68.11
15
Bristol Rovers
61.61
15
Southend United
73.39
15
Cheltenham Town
67.98
16
Walsall
61.26
16
Shrewsbury Town
72.91
16
Bury
67.67
17
Morecambe
60.76
17
Northampton Town
72.82
17
Notts County
67.29
18
Burton Albion
60.63
18
Walsall
72.57
18
Carlisle United
67.26
19
Fleetwood Town
60.58
19
Tranmere Rovers
72.12
19
Brentford
67.26
20
Gillingham
60.54
20
AFC Wimbledon
71.82
20
Nottingham Forest
67.00
21
Chesterfield
60.49
21
Plymouth Argyle
71.15
21
Wycombe Wanderers
67.00
22
Bradford City
60.41
22
Leyton Orient
70.61
22
Rochdale
66.61
23
Bournemouth
60.26
23
Doncaster Rovers
70.38
23
Crawley Town
66.60
24
Carlisle United
60.17
24
Barnsley
69.50
24
Chesterfield
66.29
25
Bury
60.12
25
Carlisle United
69.46
25
Bradford City
65.42
26
Northampton Town
59.86
26
Port Vale
69.30
26
Southend United
64.92
27
Shrewsbury Town
59.62
27
Gillingham
69.05
27
Plymouth Argyle
64.80
28
Notts County
59.08
28
Burton Albion
68.30
28
Colchester United
64.27
29
Tranmere Rovers
59.02
29
Morecambe
68.29
29
Milton Keynes Dons
63.89
30
Milton Keynes Dons
58.81
30
Bristol Rovers
68.23
30
Bournemouth
63.81
31
Barnsley
58.62
31
Fleetwood Town
68.14
31
Accrington Stanley
63.54
32
Dagenham & Redbridge
58.51
32
Oldham Athletic
67.85
32
Oxford Uunited
62.91
33
Stevenage
58.42
33
Bournemouth
66.83
33
Morecambe
62.53
34
Doncaster Rovers
58.33
34
Notts County
65.81
34
Doncaster Rovers
62.44
35
Rotherham United
58.21
35
Hull City
65.55
35
Rotherham United
62.03
36
Bristol City
57.24
36
Charlton Athletic
64.71
36
AFC Wimbledon
61.97
37
Accrington Stanley
56.97
37
Swindon Town
64.55
37
Peterborough United
61.92
38
Oldham Athletic
56.95
38
Rotherham United
64.18
38
Tottenham Hotspur
61.49
39
Brentford
56.93
39
Milton Keynes Dons
64.07
39
Brighton & Hove Albion
61.08
40
Plymouth Argyle
56.78
40
Dagenham & Redbridge
64.01
40
Yeovil Town
60.75
41
Blackpool
56.28
41
Coventry City
63.96
41
Swansea City
60.44
42
Brighton & Hove Albion
54.92
42
Fulham
63.86
42
Hull City
59.96
43
Stoke City
54.72
43
Crawley Town
63.58
43
Bristol City
59.96
44
Hull City
54.42
44
Preston North End
63.57
44
Blackpool
59.77
45
Cheltenham Town
54.37
45
Swansea City
62.88
45
Tranmere Rovers
59.25
46
Wycombe Wanderers
54.04
46
Blackpool
62.79
46
Preston North End
59.15
47
Swindon Town
53.71
47
Portsmouth
62.56
47
Gillingham
58.84
48
Coventry City
52.97
48
Bristol City
62.35
48
Crewe Alexandra
57.92
49
Peterborough United
52.83
49
Huddersfield Town
61.93
49
Coventry City
57.50
50
Cardiff City
52.79
50
Watford
61.75
50
Portsmouth
56.80
51
Preston North End
52.73
51
Stevenage
61.40
51
Millwall
56.12
52
Reading
52.55
52
Cardiff City
60.92
52
Barnsley
56.04
53
Burnley
52.42
53
Oxford Uunited
60.74
53
Port Vale
55.65
54
Fulham
52.40
54
Millwall
60.36
54
Burton Albion
55.19
55
Nottingham Forest
52.38
55
Reading
60.33
55
Fleetwood Town
54.89
56
Swansea City
52.29
56
Brighton & Hove Albion
60.26
56
Huddersfield Town
54.41
57
Watford
51.42
57
Crystal Palace
59.66
57
Burnley
54.38
58
Middlesbrough
50.97
58
Stoke City
59.56
58
Sheffield United
54.21
59
Derby County
50.91
59
Sheffield United
58.99
59
Sunderland
53.99
60
Birmingham City
50.86
60
Sheffield Wednesday
58.27
60
West Ham United
53.59
61
Charlton Athletic
50.85
61
Middlesbrough
57.69
61
Scunthorpe United
53.50
62
Sheffield United
49.99
62
Accrington Stanley
57.69
62
Shrewsbury Town
51.52
63
Portsmouth
49.88
63
Peterborough United
57.67
63
Derby County
51.42
64
Queen’s Park Rangers
49.81
64
Wycombe Wanderers
57.40
64
Norwich City
51.10
65
Crystal Palace
49.13
65
Birmingham City
57.14
65
Cardiff City
51.02
66
Bolton Wanderers
48.98
66
Bolton Wanderers
56.94
66
Walsall
50.50
67
Blackburn Rovers
48.04
67
Queen’s Park Rangers
56.52
67
Queen’s Park Rangers
50.40
68
Norwich City
47.81
68
Derby County
55.23
68
Ipswich Town
50.31
69
Leicester City
47.51
69
Blackburn Rovers
55.15
69
Wigan Athletic
49.58
70
Millwall
47.41
70
Leicester City
54.24
70
Northampton Town
48.39
71
Huddersfield Town
47.32
71
Burnley
54.15
71
Leeds United
48.29
72
West Bromwich Albion
46.37
72
Southampton
53.29
72
Crystal Palace
48.14
73
Crawley Town
46.05
73
Norwich City
52.78
73
Charlton Athletic
48.10
74
Oxford Uunited
45.92
74
West Bromwich Albion
52.65
74
Middlesbrough
47.64
75
Wolverhampton Wanderers
45.55
75
Sunderland
51.67
75
Fulham
46.34
76
Southampton
45.21
76
Cheltenham Town
50.75
76
Birmingham City
45.85
77
Sheffield Wednesday
45.01
77
West Ham United
50.61
77
Stevenage
45.28
78
Yeovil Town
45.00
78
Ipswich Town
48.70
78
Blackburn Rovers
45.22
79
Wigan Athletic
44.78
79
Nottingham Forest
48.35
79
Leicester City
45.17
80
Sunderland
42.69
80
Leeds United
48.02
80
Watford
44.59
81
Ipswich Town
42.64
81
Wolverhampton Wanderers
46.28
81
Bolton Wanderers
44.58
82
West Ham United
41.93
82
Newcastle United
45.37
82
Everton
43.24
83
Newcastle United
41.27
83
Aston Villa
45.08
83
West Bromwich Albion
43.16
84
Manchester City
40.57
84
Everton
42.85
84
Aston Villa
42.13
85
Everton
39.28
85
Yeovil Town
41.84
85
Torquay Uniited
41.38
86
Leeds United
37.75
86
Wigan Athletic
40.68
86
Stoke City
40.52
87
Aston Villa
37.11
87
Manchester City
40.44
87
Manchester City
39.34
88
Tottenham Hotspur
32.44
88
Tottenham Hotspur
36.17
88
Newcastle United
37.87
89
Chelsea
31.46
89
Chelsea
33.48
89
Liverpool
32.13
90
Arsenal
30.22
90
Arsenal
30.99
90
Arsenal
24.97
91
Liverpool
21.97
91
Liverpool
25.83
91
Chelsea
23.17
92
Manchester United
21.31
92
Manchester United
21.18
92
Manchester United
20.28